ANNIVERSARY 2941 - 1991

Daily Report—

West Europe

FBIS-WEU-9 1-105 Friday 31 May 1991

Daily Report West Europe

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Bush Plan Receives ‘Unrestricted’ Approval /4DN/ Foreign Minister Advocates More Powers for UN /Cologne Radio] Navy Chief Comments on Bundeswehr Issues /B/LD 3] May/

Views Former GDR Navy /4ADN/ :, SPD Favors Bundeswehr Role in UN Forces /DP4A/ Bundeswehr Presence in Former GDR Airspace /DER SPIEGEL 27 May] Engholm on Out-of-Area Missions, Coalitions /Mainz 71) | Honecker Granted Political Asylum in USSR) /DP4/ Honecker Said To Have Financed Neo-Nazis in West /BILD 3] May .... | Gysi Criticizes Treatment of Ex-GDR Leaders /NELES DEUTSCHLAND 28 May] Officials Deny Unofficial Stasi Employees List /DER MORGEN 28 May] Ex-GDR Prosecutor on Illegal Stasi Acuons /NEUES DEUTSCHLAND 28 May] Schwerin Diet Discusses Stasi Links of Deputies /Cologne Radio] Nazi Files Found at Stasi Federal Archive /NEUE ZEIT 28 May] Trust Agency President Breuel on Privatization /DIE ZEIT 24 May] Iramian Mining Minister Meets Industrialists /7ehran IRNA/


Joint Declaration on Electronics Cooperation /DP4A/

International Oil Meeting Planned With Venezuela /4FP/

Foreign Ministry on Relations With Japan = /4FP/

Difference With Tunss Over ‘Islamic Threat /LE WONDE 26-27 May] ITALY

Bessmerinykh, De Michelis News Conference /4NS4/

Andreotti, Bush Exchange Messages on Disarmament /4\S4/

ETA Attacks on Spanish Interests Reported / Madrid International]

Andreotti, Slovak Leader on Peaceful Solutions § /Prague CTK/ PORTUGAL

Pinheiro Meets Bessmerinykh, Views Angola /Lishon Radio]

* Cavaco Silva Interviewed on EC Course /DIARIO DE NOTICIAS ° May] SPAIN

ETA Commando Leader Killed in Police Shoot-Out /MVadrid Radio]

* Local, Regional Election Platforms Published /D/ARIO 16, 10 May]


President Vasilhhou Comments on Meeting With Bush = /Nicosia Radio]

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Vasiliou: UN To Decide on Talks With Denktas /Lishon DIARIO DE NOTICIAS 19 May] DIKO Deputy Elected New House President /Nicosia Radio/


Ozal Proposes Quadripartite Meeting on Cyprus /4ANASOLI4A/ Yazar Reviews NATO Meetings, Decisions /Ankara 7; , Nonaggression Pact With Greece, Issues Viewed /4NATOLI4/ Bulgaria Releases 93 Detained Turkish Fishermen /4NATOLI/A/

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Bush Plan Receives ‘Unrestricted’ Approval LD3105 105591 Beran DS in German 0954 7M1 3] May ¥!

| Text] Bonn / ADN}—The Federal Government has wel- comed US. President George Bust.’s Middle East disar- mamint initiative. At the federal press conference today. government spokesman Dieter Vogel said in this connec- ton that all measures that halt the transfer of conven- tional weapons and the prolifezation of weapons of mass destruction have the government's “unrestricted” approval and support

Vogel said that the FRG had long since renounced the manufacture and possession of nuclear, biological. and chemical weapons or having them at its disposal. It supported President Bush's appeal to use Middle East Slates 10 jorn the exrsting agrcement on biological weapons and to be the first to sign the convention on a worldwide ban on chemical weapons that 1s now being negotiated

The Federal Government strongly supports intensified international cooperation with the aim of worldwide eflective arms export controls, Vogel stressed. It will therefore press for rapid progress in this matter within the EC and certainly also at the world economic summit in London

Foreign Minister Advocates More Powers for UN

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[Text] FRG Foreign Minister Genscher has come out in favor of giving the United Nations more comprehensive powers. In an article for NORDSEE ZEITU NG. which ts published in Bremerhaven. Genscher said that for this

purpose the position of the UN secretary general and of

the UN Security Council would have to be strengthened. among other things. and a court of justice for human rights would have to be established. In addition, the politician of the Free Democratic Party of Germany called for a UN arms exports register and provisions to facilitate the imposition of sanctions against polluters of the environment

Navy Chief Comments on Bundeswehr Issues

10 3/05/0589] Hambure BILD in German ‘] May Yi py

[Interview with Navy Inspector Vice Admiral Hans Joachim Mann by Hans-Hermann Tiedje, Vollrath von Heintze, and Lothar Schindlbeck: place and date not given]

[Text] [BILD] Constitutional experts say that the Bundeswehr could be used in UN missions also without a change in the Basic Law

{Mann] This is correct. However, in the Gulf war the situation would have been intolerable for our soldiers


They would have msked their lives and then read in the papers that the majority of our people thought this was unconstitutional

[BILD] At that time many soldiers card that they are afraid of a mission in the area of crisis

[Mann] Those who whined were an absolute mirority. It 1s simply not correct that the majorcty of Our troops are cry-bames—even though this impression might have arisen

[BILD] But more than 74.000 draftees refused to serve during the first four months of this year—thal 1s more than during the entire ycar of 1990. Was that not fear?

{Mann} I do not think so. The reason 1s thet the young men do nol see any particular sense mm: serving in the Bundeswehr at the moment. because the th zat from the East 1s gone. And this was the only reason for service in the Bundeswehr in the past

[BILD] Are there other reasons now”

[Mann] The Bundeswehr 1s an instrument for preventive defense and safeguarding against risks. For me this 1s a completely sufficrent legitimation. And I try to tell this to my soldiers

[BILD] There were 74,000 conscientious objectors within four months—how are things to continue”

[Mann] I do not know. I only know what 1s necessary. It i$ Necessary to get a political statement that ts as clear as possible, from the politicians of all big parties about the indispensability of the Bundeswehr also after the end of the Warsaw Pact

Views Former GDR Navy

LD3005 160491 Berlin ADN in German 1421 GMI 30 May 9/1

[Excerpt] Berlin, 30 May (ADN)}—(passage omitted] On the day of German unity 8.700 men from the former people's navy joined the Bundeswehr. Mann stated However, only 2.000 will eventually be able to stay. They are getting on “very well” with the NVA [National People’s Army] people. A kind of labor exchange has been set up to help [former] NVA members find a civilian occupation

“But of course 1 was hard for them when I had to tell them that, unfortunately. in the federal navy there 1s no need for their ships. | felt what they were feeling in that moment,” the navy chief of staff said

SPD Favors Bundeswehr Role in UN Forces LD3108082691 Hambure DPA in German O800 GM1 31] May 9]

[Text] Bremen (DPA)}—The Social Democratic Party [SPD] 1s in favor of German participation in peace- promoting actions by the United Nations



Congress in Bremen supported with a large majority a relevant change to the Basic Law today. The SPD wants the deployment of German troops in “blue helmet” actions by the United Nations to be decided on an individual basis by the Bundestag. The Social Democrats strongly oppose any Bundeswehr participation in muili- lary operations outside the NATO sphere

The vote was preceded by several hours of cmotional debate yesterday evening. SPD Chairman Bjorn Eng- holm. Bundestag group chairman Hans-Jochen Vogel. and numerous other prominent Social Democrats strongly appealed to the delegates to allow participation in “blue helmet” action

These UN missions have nothing to do with military controntations but serve to prevent them and are thus in line with the SPD's peace aims. However, delegates on the left-wing, above all. capressed fears thal an amend- ment to the Basic Law could open the door to military operations by the Bundeswehr outside NATO

Bundeswehr Presence in Former GDR Airspace

if 300518559] Hambure DER SPIEGEL in German 27 May 91 pp 70-75

[Unattinbuted report: “Buffer im the Sky" ]

[Text] The Bundeswehr plans to ensure air sovercignty over castern Germany by itselfi—at the expense of civil aviation and against the vill of the Bonn coalition

Frequent fiyers in West and East Berlin cxaperienced their impotence for 40 years. Whenever generals or other prominent allied figures arrived by plane the civilian passengers had to wait. German authorities were unable to do anything about i

The arrogance of the military officials should have ended with the German unification. However, “the only thing that has changed 1s the color of the uniforms.” a depart- ment head of the Berlin transport senator says. Instead of the allies, the Bundeswehr now has a finger im the pre—tihe Berlin airspace

For weeks, the transport authority has been waiting for an application from the Lufiwafle to use the airspace The pilots intend to drop parachutists over the Spandau Lindenufer within the scope of an “inland publicity drive” of the Navy at the second weekend im June According to the air traffic law. the action requires the permission of the Berlin Senat

However, nobody asks the civilians. In the moilitary officials’ view, their show does not require a permission because it 1s “urgently necessary” to “fulfill sovereignty tasks.”

The Bonn coalition 1s annoyed at the generals’ arro- gance. The Christian Social Union [CSU] and the Free Democratic Party [FDP] plan to force Defense Minister Gerhard Stoltenberg, of the Christian Democratic Union [CD]. to keep to the coalitvon agreement of January


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thes year. The agreement clearly says that the micrests of civil aviation mus. also have precedence over the inter- ests of military aviation in the former GDR. too

So far, Stoltenberg and his officers have failed to observe the political agreement. The Bundeswehr has already brought two thirds of the airspace over the new federal laender under its control, and the soldiers are increas- ingly present at civilian airports. The sicreotypical argu- ment that the Defense Ministry puts forward to explain to Transport Minit Guenther Krause (CDi) the reason for the military omnipresence im castern Cer- many 1S that after all, the military must react to the fact “that the GDR as a buffer” between the East and West “has ceased to exrst.”

The argument can hardly convince the Bonn civilians in tuumes of detente. FDP politician Ekkehard Gres, who 1s a member of the Bundestag Transport Commiuticc, ts in full agreement with the CSU on this rssuc: “We have a coalition agreement, which must be observed.”

An important term for transport politicians 1s “military air traffic control,” which has been gradually created in the old federal laender and works in paralicl with the civihan air traffic control—with considerable reduction in friction. No other country in the world has such a dual system where—following time-consuming consultations with the air traffic controllers—soldiers guide military planes through civilian airspace

In this way something 1s reduced which international aviation needs mosi—airspace capacity. In order to create more room im the sky over Germany. the Bonn government's parties therefore laid down 1n the coalition agreement “the integration of military air traffic control into the civilian organization.”

Practice 1s different. At a cost of milhons of marks, an “overall military air control system” 1s currently being sect up in the former GDR. allegedly in order to safeguard the security of the Sovect MiG aircraft that are still deploved in the former GDR

Because of the Soviet jets, the Bundeswehr was to take over the major part of the airspace im castern Germany until 1994 when the Sovicts have totally pulled out. That was agreed upon between the allies, Bonn, and East Berlin prior to the unification. However. internally. the air Strategists of the Bonn Defense Ministry frankly admit that the reason given for the development of a separate military air control system 1s not sensible. A working paper prepared by the Defense Ministry says that “it 1s mmpossible to bind the Soviets mto an air control system that 1s structured according to the Western model.”

The real reason for the extension of military air traffic control 1s given im another paper with file number 32-01-08: The establishment of an “overall air traffic control system” with radar and computers in casicrn Gsermany must be carned out “and include the deploy- ment of Bundeswehr fighter aircraft.” Stoltenberg

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[Enghoim) You are turning 2 topic. an cvent thal appears to be most improbabic. a topic that 1s caclusively based on conventional muluary ideas. mito a main forcign policy topic. If the decrsson ca whether German soldiers are to be Martally employed in various arcas of conflict im the world ts the central German foreign policy topic we did not Iearn anything new im the past two gcncra- ons. This can be the 27th question at the end of a series

of new sdcas about a world peace order. bul not the first onc

[Bresser] But you wil) have to answer i

[Engholm] We will have to answer i om about | vears

|Seegioch. interrupting] Mr. Enghoim., would you tell us

briefly if yOu Can imagine cases where such an armed INTETVENLION tS Necessary”

[Engholm] Well. | cannot believe that we will once again accept such 4 solution after the capernences of the Gulf war. The Gull war was caused by problems. It was ended without actually Solving one single problem. | suppose that the number of problems there has become grcatcr than before [passage omitted]

| Bresser] Do you think that we wall need far more moncs

tor the eastern laender than has now been resolved by the tax mecreases”

[Enghoilm] | think that particularly Kun Biedenkopt minister president of Saxony. is capable of a realistic assessment. He said that for one decade the dev clopment of the eastern laender will cost not less than about 100

billhon German marks per vear. Thies cann cheved by the present income mechanism that was ; sed by the Federal Government. 1 think that it is nm sighted

enough. We will be confronted with the same situation in one OF [WO years. [Dessage omitted]

[Bresser] If you have any hope for a social-liberal coali- ton, on what 1s it based”

[Engholm] I said at the beginning of this interview that I proceed on the 4ssumption that the neat clections will be held in a little more than three years, unless things happen before that cause the coalition to break apart and the government to fail. Then you will ascertain that one or the other of the smaller partners 1s far more available

and flexible than the SPD. We experienced this several tomes on history

[Sregloch] Having just talked about the social-liberal option—Lower Saxony Minister President Schrocder says that the red-green option must also be kept open for the government—do you want to keep these two roads open” Is this a kind of signal from Bremen’

[Engholm] Well. | want to become as strong as possibic with my party. Every percentage point

[Siegloch, interrupting]

but no majority of your own

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[Engholm} _. makes coalition negotiations and the for- mation of alliances casecr. Figuratively speaking. a bridc- groom who has the chone between two brides might be a happs bridegroom if he 1s not a chauvinrst

Therefore. | thenk that there are no phasc-oul modcls and no future models for coalisons. Coalivons are utility ahhances. Onc concludes them in a special situation while assessing the abilities of one’s pariner and the compatibility, of programs. With respect. if the Greens are actually realistic politecians with whom onc can conclude an agreement at Gerhard Schroeder did suc- cessfully. as I beleve. or. for example. the Brandenburg coalition, which 1s a very interesting variant. and onc knows that thes can last for four years, why should onc pass todas a verdict on one or the other partner’

[Bresser] In conclusion. bridegroom Engholm 1s pre- pared to form an alhance with the Free Democrat Party of Germany [FDP]. as well as with the Greens Time well bring an answer. You are still wanting and making your chonwe. Thank you very much

[Engholm] No. | am one of the old-fashroned democrats who sav that in principle and eventually every coalition must be possible between democratic parties. | do not want to exclude any party

[Siegloch. Bresser] Thank you very much

[Engholm] Thank you

Honecker Granted Political Asylum in USSR

1230085171791 Hambure DPA in German 16200 6M1 4) Vay Vi

(Text) Hamburg (DPA}—According to his own words Erich Honecker. the former GDR state and party chict was granted political asylum in the Sovict Union. Hon- ecker sand thes on hes first television interview since his escape from the Sovict military hospital in Beelitz. near Berlin. on 13 March thes vear. This Sunday. the former Socialest Unity Party of Germany [SED] chiet will speak in the “Spregel-TV-Magazin™ program. He will also speak about the order to shoot (at the mner German border). “the sequence of events at his escape. as well as his state of health

According to Stefan Aust. chief editor of “Spiegel TV.” ADN's Moscow correspondent Wolfgang Szusgicn con- ducted the interview at Honeckers apariment in Moscow last Saturday. The program will also show the bed and drip-feed that. according to his wife Margot Honecker 1s regularly connected to

The former SED chief also protests the arrest of his former allvee. Will Stoph and Herz Kessler. Honecker also cxupresses a strong view on what he calls the “witch- hunt against the old SED™. Aust further told DPA that he has the mmpression that “Honecker’s view of hrs political role” remains unaltered

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The smtervicw wad be broadcast thes Sunday (- June 2000 GMT)

Honecker Said To Have Financed Neo-Nazis in West 40 3105 100291 Hambure BILD in German 31 Vay 9! ppi.4

[Report by Guenther D. Franke]

[Text] For years Ench Honecker and hes comrades contnibuted millions to financing nco-Nazis and ther newspapers im the West. Thes flirted with former Naz bigwigs. from Hitler Youth leaders to generals of the Waffen-SS. Thes beiped found ultra-rghtist organiza- ons im the FRG. This has been revealed by secret dossiers and strictly confidential archive files that arc available to BILD

For 40 years the GDR pretended to be the “bearer of the hanner of antifascism.” The FRG. on the other hand was the “abode of fascism” for the comrades m Pankow

The secret documents, which have turned up now. prove the real relatronship of the comrades in Pankow with the “fascists.” The Central Commutice of the Socialrst U nity Party of Germany [SED] even had former commanders of concentration camps work tor it. Honecker enthused about the Hitler Youth organization: “We have so many things im common.”

Originally. those pulling the strings were Walter Ulbricht, Otto Grotewohl, and Wilhelm Preck The organizer and paymaster: Erich Honecker. then chairman of the Central Counc! of the Free German Youth. GDR Press Cheef Albert Norden and Central Committee members Paul Verner and Hans Walden were also involved

The operation started as carly as 1951. A theses paper sand: “It os certainly possible and necessary to organize a unity front... with the former members of the Natrona! Socialist German Workers Party”

The reason for the newly discovered love The Commu. mists wanted to prevent the FRG from entering an alliance with the West

“For this purpose.” a document says. “the former Navis and Wehrmacht offices and ultra-rightist groups in the FRG are to be united and to be persuaded to pursuc a policy of neutralizing Germany

The second goal: “Toward other Western countries and within the FRG itself, the carstence of ultra-righinst organizations and press organs 1s to be used nm polrtical terms as proof of increasing neo- Nazism in the FRG

Then money started to flow

Thus, on 1951, 100,000 German marks [DM] went to DEL TSCHER BEOBACHTER l\Gserman (observer)


(-aagazine of th, former Hitler Youth leaders). m 1952- $4. DM1.630,000 went to the ultra-nghust “DE! 'T- SCHE NATIONAL ZEITU NG [German National Ne~+- paper}. im 1954-55. another sum involving millhons went to the weekly DIE NATION [The Natron]

The milhons from Pankow were not for free DIE NATION had to stick to an edvtonal concept worked out by Albert Norden. In return. courcrs were pernuticd to g0 to Pankow every month to pick up bricicases full of cash

Hans Walden of the SED Central Commutice appomicd his “special confidant™ as cditorna’ head of the ultra- rightsst weekly. So far. this man had not carned any merit in a publeshing house, however, he had done so as head of a concentratron camp in the Third Rewh

(,ysi Criticizes Treatment of Ex-GDR Leaders

if 20081322191 Berlin NECES DEL TSCHLAND in drerman 28 Vay Yi pl

[Text] Luxembourg—Gregor Gysi. chairman of the Party of Democratic Socialism [PDS]. came out agamnst all theones mvolving scapegoats im connection with dealing with the past of the former GDR. In a talk on the morning cast of the RTL Plus television station on Monday [27 May]. Gysi deplored the fact that the yurvdecal method has replaced the political onc. Une has to deal with the GDR leadership above all by political means. However. unfortunately this 1s not donc

Thus. the affair imvolving [former State Secretary] Schaick-Crolodkowsk: must not be fined to his person Behind Schaick there were not only men hike [former Politburo member] Mittag. but also an entire system Ciysi sand that on a future investigating committee he would make a contribution so that not only the truth about the person of Schaick-Golodkowsk: comes to hight but also the structures and relationships in which Schaick moved about. as well as the men behind the scenes and the relatrons with partics in Bonn. A man ike Schaick-Golodkowsk: 1 interesting mainly because he reflects the relatronship of the two German states on the past

Asked about hrs opinion on the order to shoot, Giysi sand that was not that order but the lack of freedom of travel of the GDR citizens thal was the actual problem If the GDR citizens had had this freedom. the order to shoot would have been a completely normal maticr at the border

Officials Deny U nofficial Stasi Employees List tf 470508479) Berlin DER VORGEN in German "S Vay Yipl

"MLK report]

[Text] Berlin—The report published two weeks ago Dy a Berlin daily that a lyst with the names of unofficial emplovees had appeared im the capital 1s apparently

compictely unfounded. Dankward Brinksmencr. a member of the “cutuzrens Commaus~< 15 January” and former chairman of the People’s Chamber investigation committee. described the ncws as “mere rumors.” The “Ct ntivens Commutice 15 January.” which alicgedls spread the information. will distance itself publeclhy from this allegation

According to Brinksmerer. the carstcnce of such bests would contradect the cxapenecnces of those responsitic for the drssolutvon of the former GDR Stas: state scours system. because the system of unofficial emplovecs was of a conspiratorial nature it might be poswble that members of the Munrsiry for State Securty prepared such tests as “some kind of life mmsurance™ during the tinal phase. However, there ms no evedence of that Brinksmerer described the publication of the report Dy the daily as “dubvows pournalrsm

The former commuessoncr for the dissolutvon of the Ministry for State Security. Werner Fischer. also con- wders the camstence of a inst of unofficial emplovecs unlikely \coording to hrs knowledge. there have never been such lests. “Rascally. only the control officers knew the unofficial emplovees.” he stressed

E+ DR Prosecutor on Illegal Stasi Actions

IC S105 703191 Berlin NECES DEL TSCHLAND " (sorman os Wai ¥/ p

lintervecw with ea4<GDR public prosecutor Manfred Hegner by Claws Duemde. place and date not given]

[Text] In an interview with NEUES DEL TSCHLAND former Stasi Major General Gerhard Nichiing responding to accusatrons that the Muenrstry of State Security [MES] acted arbitrarily against opposition mem bers. beat them up. tortured them. and even killed them sand that the central MfS Investigation Mam Depart ment, HA I\. was swhordinate not only to Miche but also directly to the GDR prosecutor general. Thus, onc would have to ask the public prosecutors Manfred Hegner from Berlon. whose employment has been s-s- pended for the tume berg. gave us the following inter view. In spring 1990 he was temporarily involved mm the dissolution of the MfS’National Security Office as the representative of the prosecutor general. During thes work and in dealing with applications for rehabilitation m summer 1990 he gained mnsight eto the structure and working methods of the MIS

[Duemde] Did the MES really act only im accordance with GDR laws”

[Hegner] Mr. Necblong gives the empresson that the MS always worked under sinct supervision by the pubhx prosecutors offices. Reality was completely differen

|Duemde|] How”

[Hegner] The HA LX of the MES was never subordiman to the GDR prosecutor general. In the 1970's. at the


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regucsi of the menrsicrs of state scowrnts and the micrnut thou icgal obligation to present a: ‘how orders and Gecress concerning penal measures to the prosecutor gencral was abolnhed with the etroke of a pen. In additvor,. the MES also had a Mam Department VIII

([Deemde] What were ots tasks”

| Hegner] In unternal MES documents 0 was called “mves- lgavhon. oteraton. arrest” Opposition members aliegediy snemoecal forces. had to do wath the HA XI. the offical MES mvestogation organ. only of as bead of an MIS bezerh leader started mvestigation procedurcs Ail PTCVIOWS SUPCTVISVONS. INVESingalions. msiructions attempts at mmtimmedation. and any kind of drscrumenation were carned oul without any public prosecutor having any possitulity to cxcrt mfluctce. even withow' th: iknow hocage of the pubic prosecutors

(Duemde] By thes HA VIET"

[Hegner) Because obser atron withen on the cowntn was more and more extended. other MIS departments also worked om a somelar way and, at the request of the MIS Working Growp | was established within the pole department for crominal mmvestigations. They were all completely mmdependent of the public prosecutors offices and were permitted to work with methods that were, according to the GDR Code of Criminal Proce dure. reserved exclusively for the mvestigation organs mentironed there

[Duemde] But public prosecutors were mvolved”

[Hegner] Only when a formal mmvestigation procedure “as Started were the few publ prosecutors mmvolved who were responsible for cromes against the state at the central level and om the bezirks. These were about 60 persons all over the GDR. who were first checked out bs the MIS and then appointed with its express approval What was left was a formal supers mon of the umplermen- tatron of law, because, as a result of thew small number these public prosecutors were not even remotely able to particupate om all respective mvestgatoms. It ms clear what kind of control a publ prosecutor, who was checked out by the MfS and depended on ts goodwill cxeried

[Duemde] What was the “publi prosecutor's superv:- won of Stas prisons lhe”

[Hegner| The number of public prosecutors whom the MIS permitted access to ts prisons for detention pending trial and to mmstaliatrons such as the mfamouws Prison Il om Bawtzen was ven smaller Thew powers were very small because of be alleged nved for secrecy

[Duemde] There are endicatvoms that the MES even wrote sornpts for trials. Did you learn anything about that’

[Hegner] Ves. on the case of Professor Dr. Robert Have mann I drew up applications for sctting aside pudgments for the prosecutor general, and om the process | looked through the files of two trials. In one of the files the

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[DIE ZEIT] By the end of Apml you sold 1.600 nics. Will you be able to increase the speed of privatiza tion even turther’


[Breucl] 1 do not know everything indicates that the speed wall accelerate once again. However. of the international cconomic devclop

Judging from the ncgotiations

ment detenorated. tor mustance. thes would make our work more diff cult

(DIE ZEIT] The best companies can be sold most casi Is the ume approaching when you will have only “second choice” companies iett and can sell far fewer’

[Breuel] The theory that we have sold the “p arls” and have only left is semply wrong. Some of the cx-combines cannot tind a buyer because thes have a

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completely meorrect structure, with absurd manuta luring Structures and excessive administration

Here we have to pursue active dismantling ond rntelh gent joming together, Thies ss already making progress

and the new legal measures help us

(DIE ZEIT) Dismant!ine requires time, Will thes stow down the speed of privatization”

[Breucl] All enterprise concepts are to include disentan glement. In thes respect. quite a lot of preparatory work has already been done, The 2.000 companies that hav« been disentangled so tar are not a bad result

[DIE ZEIT] Why have only about 5 percent of the privatized cOoOmpanics been sold to lorcigners

[Breuel] Here we are facing a big task. for which we are prepared. From the very beginning it has not been our goal to hold a closed Crerman rally—on the contrary. We need international knowledge, and we need full access to the micrnational markess for the companies im the new lacnder

Now we have an “official register” of all Trust Agency companies. With this we can become mor abroad. You cannot simply tell the Japanes Buy